with Special Guest... Nobody!
September 19, 2022
This week, Ronan and JR are going solo (duo?) for our 68th episode. They're in fine form, going back through the genesis of Boxes and Lines, the trials and tribulations of sound quality, and some of our most memorable guests and moment. Tune in for some classic JR and Ronan banter and then dig into the archives for more. Recorded September 8, 2022.
with John Nunziati of Q4
August 22, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, Ronan and JR speak with IEX alum John Nunziati, who is now an Investor Relations Partner at Q4. They touch on the move toward the standardization of ESG reporting, existing SEC disclosure requirements, and the importance of planning for crisis scenarios. They also discuss how companies are thinking about expressing more controversial political or social stances in the current environment. Recorded July 18, 2022.
with Rich Counsell of Stable
August 1, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, Ronan and JR chat with Eric ... er ... Rich Counsell, Founder and CEO of Stable and a former farm kid who didn't actually find his passion for agriculture until starting his finance career in commodities. Rich shares his insight on the commodities space and how his platform is tackling risk management for farmers and other businesses that are subject to volatile commodity prices. They also discuss the importance of timing in commodities risk management, the regulatory structure around Stable's business, and communicating with customers on their own terms. Recorded June 30, 2022.
July 11, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, Ronan and JR speak with Doug Clark, Managing Director at TMX, and Peter Haynes, Managing Director at TD Securities –Canadians and friends since working together at TD in the early '90s. Needless to say, they're experts on the Canadian market. They share their insight on Canadian market structure, how it compares to the U.S., and why you maybe shouldn't compare the two. They also have advice for anyone looking to grow in the industry and tell classic tales of trading floor pranks. Recorded June 27, 2022.
with Paul Bauccio of IEX
June 27, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, Ronan and JR talk to IEX's Paul Bauccio, who has been with the company for nearly a decade. Paul joined the team after previously working at the New York Stock Exchange to help transition the company from an ATS to a national securities exchange. They discuss the new opportunities and responsibilities that came along with becoming an exchange, their experiences on Wall Street during 9/11, and shifting to a remote workforce during the pandemic.
with Boris Ilyevsky of Coinbase
June 6, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, hosts John Ramsay and Ronan Ryan are joined by Boris Ilyevsky, former Head of Market Development at IEX Exchange who is now the Director of Derivatives Product at Coinbase. They discuss his thoughts on futures trading for retail investors, crypto futures and regulation, and the evolution of fintech over the past decade.
with Shane Swanson of Coalition Greenwich
May 23, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, JR and Ronan chat with Coalition Greenwich Senior Analyst Shane Swanson about the results of a recent survey of sellside market participants that Coalition Greenwich conducted in partnership with IEX Exchange. The survey uncovered interesting insights about perspectives on market structure topics such as the rise of retail trading, exchange rebate tiers, and SEC priorities, as well as questions around how firms are assessing the blockchain and digital asset space. Recorded April 19, 2022.
with J.W. Verret of the Antonin Scalia Law School
May 9, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, hosts Ronan Ryan and John Ramsay are joined by J.W. Verret, Associate Professor at the Antonin Scalia Law School and an expert on the SEC and fintech space. They discuss the history of disagreements between market participants and the SEC, governing the Web3 ecosystem, and using crypto for social good. Recorded March 8, 2022.
with Eric Balchunas of Bloomberg Intelligence
April 25, 2022
On the latest episode of Boxes and Lines, Eric Balchunas, Senior ETF Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence and co-host of Bloomberg's "Trillions" podcast, joins Ronan and JR to tell us about larger-than-life Vanguard founder Jack Bogle, who reshaped the way millions of people invest their money. Bogel is the subject of Eric's new book "The Bogle Effect," out on April 26. They also chat about the history and prospects for Bitcoin ETFs, as well as Russia ETFs. Recorded April 7, 2022.
with Eric Stockland of BMO Capital Markets
April 11, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, hosts John Ramsay and Ronan Ryan are joined by Eric Stockland, Managing Director, Global Markets at BMO Capital Markets and former Chief Strategy Officer at IEX, for a down-to-the-nitty-gritty trading discussion! They discuss the impact of tiny increments of speed in today's market, maximizing outcomes for clients through experimentation, the importance of taking calculated risks, rebate tiers, and prioritizing people over algorithms. Recorded March 24, 2022.
with Matt Harris of Bain Capital Ventures
March 14, 2022
On this episode of Boxes and Lines, hosts John Ramsay and Ronan Ryan are joined by Matt Harris, Partner at Bain Capital Ventures and an investor in IEX! With over two decades of experience investing in fintech, Matt shares his insights on the evolution of the space, the challenges of going public, the emerging Web3 ecosystem, and running a company post-pandemic. Recorded on February 24, 2022.
with Ramon Gonzalez of IEX Exchange
February 14, 2022
While you were still sleeping, the stock market was busy getting ready for the day. Ramon "Ray" Gonzalez, Head of Technology Operations for IEX Exchange, joins Ronan and JR to walk us through the checklist his team goes through every day – starting at 4 am – to get the market ready for smooth sailing. Plus, they delve into "bare metal" infrastructure, data centers, and the potential for exchanges to move into the cloud. Recorded January 31, 2022.
with Paul Bodnar and Eric Van Nostrand of BlackRock
January 24, 2022
It may be a cliché to say that younger generations care more about "purpose," but when over 70% of U.S. investors are expressing interest in sustainable investing, there's obviously money on the line. Paul Bodnar and Eric Van Nostrand of BlackRock joined us during the fall edition of #BoxesAndLinesLIVE for an on-the-ground discussion of sustainable and social impact investing and the end retail investor. Recorded October 11, 2021.
Hamilton and Burr
January 10, 2022
Think you know the story of Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr? Think again. Andy Kaplan, former partner at Greenlight Capital and Partner at Freedom's Edge Cider in Maine joins guest host and IEX colleague Jayme Abrahamsen to tell us what gets missed in one of America's founding myths – and why we should care. Recorded December 7, 2021.
with Ri Sharma (Founder, Wall Street Confessions) and Brian Hanly (CEO, Bullish Studio)
December 20, 2021
As part of our #BoxesAndLinesLIVE event in October, Ronan and JR were joined by Ri Sharma, the voice behind Instagram's @wallstreetconfessions, and Brian Hanly, the CEO of media company Bullish Studio, to discuss the social media and finance culture. Tune in for a no-holds-barred conversation about how Wall Street is changing for better or worse, how financial professionals are getting their news and information today, and how the online and social media conversation has evolved. Recorded October 13, 2021.
with Dave Olsen of Jump Trading Group
December 6, 2021
Dave Olsen, President and CIO of Jump Trading Group, joins Ronan and JR to discuss smart contracts, DeFi, the Solana blockchain, and how the Pyth Network is bringing financial data into this ecosystem. Recorded October 27, 2021.
with Amy Borrus of the Council of Institutional Investors
November 22, 2021
"Asset managers have stepped up." So says Amy Borrus, the Executive Director of the Council of Institutional Investors, in her conversation with Ronan and JR. In this episode, we dive into how say-on-pay changed the game, dual-class share structures, and how today's workforce is demanding value-based change. Recorded October 20, 2021.
with Niki Beattie of Market Structure Partners
November 8, 2021
Niki Beattie, CEO and Founder of Market Structure Partners and Non-Executive Chairman of XTX Markets and Aquis Exchange (among other corporate governance roles), joins us from the United Kingdom to give Ronan and JR the 411 on equity market structure in the European Union and UK post Brexit. We're diving deep on regulators, dark pools, systematic internalizers, consolidated tapes, retail trading, and more. Recorded October 5, 2021.
with Dave Lauer and Matt Kohrs
October 20, 2021
In our latest #BoxesAndLinesLIVE series, we took on the meteoric rise of retail trading over the past year. Since the start of the meme stock phenomenon, a new generation of retail traders have taken to Reddit forums to exchange stock (er, "stonk") tips and flood the social media airways with theories about Wall Street. Meanwhile Bloomberg IBs fly with speculation about what the mysterious "retail community" really understands about how the markets work. But we don't need to live in the dark any longer! Dave Lauer and Matt Kohrs join us to break down those barriers and serve as inside interpreters between retail and institutional trading. Recorded October 11, 2021.
with Professor Eric "Batch" Budish
August 16, 2021
Ronan and JR are joined by Eric Budish, the Steven G. Rothmeier Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, to break down the methodology and results in his paper "Quantifying the High-Frequency Trading 'Arms Race,'" his well-known batch auction market design, and the usefulness of putting a dollar value on vaccine capacity. Recorded July 28.
with John Cosenza of Goldman Sachs
July 26, 2021
John Cosenza, Head of Americas Electronic Trading and Global Co-Head of Electronic Products for Goldman Sachs, joins Ronan and JR to dig into the factors shaping trading dynamics in 2021, from the erosion of displayed liquidity to fragmentation to tick sizes – and some sports statistics on the side. Recorded June 30.
with U.S. Congressman Jim Himes
July 07, 2021
Congressman Jim Himes, a leading voice on the House Financial Services Committee, joins Ronan and JR for a discussion of retail trading, cybersecurity, and the 2021 DC landscape. We dig into the factors and interests at play, and discuss potential solutions, compromises, and opportunities for finding consensus in a polarized environment. Recorded June 11.
with Sarah Gibbons-Scheets and Spencer Levy of CBRE
June 14, 2021
In our first #BoxesAndLInesLIVE series, we took on the big questions from every New Yorker: What will post-Covid NYC look like? What's the health of the real estate market in the city? And when will we be back in the office? Experts Sarah Gibbons-Scheets and Spencer Levy from CBRE, the world's largest commercial real estate services and investment firm, joined Ronan and JR from CBRE, to weigh in on the trends they're observing, the outlook for growth, and the indicators they'll be watching most closely in the coming months. Recorded March 25.
with Anthony Scaramucci of SkyBridge Capital
June 01, 2021
Anthony Scaramucci, Founder of SkyBridge Capital (and host of podcast Mooch FM) joins Ronan and JR to take on the big questions of life and finance. The differences between Wall Street and DC, the inevitability of the GameStop trading phenomenon, the character of post-pandemic NYC, and of course, the SALT conference – it's all here. Recorded May 10.
with Danny Moses, Porter Collins, and Vinny Daniel
May 17, 2021
Nearly 14 years out from the 2008 financial crisis, the protagonists of The Big Short – Danny Moses, Porter Collins, and Vinny Daniel – joined Ronan and JR as part of our first #BoxesAndLinesLIVE event. From GameStop to crypto to short selling, it's a frank discussion of what's keeping them up at night and what they see as the biggest opportunities this year. Recorded March 23.
with Ty Gellasch of Healthy Markets
May 03, 2021
Ty Gellasch, Executive Director of Healthy Markets, takes Ronan and JR through the equities issues that he expects the Gary Gensler-led SEC to tackle over the next few years and why he believes we might see the most aggressive SEC agenda in his lifetime. Recorded March 12.
with Lyn Alden and Mike Green
April 19, 2021
As part of our first #BoxesAndLinesLIVE event, Lyn Alden and Mike Green joined Ronan and JR for an in-depth discussion of all things Bitcoin, from the underlying purpose, to security concerns, to the regulatory environment. Whether you're a bull or a bear, the discussion is sure to leave you with food for thought and perhaps some arguments for your next barroom (or Twitter) debate. Recorded March 24.
with Helima Croft of RBC Capital Markets
April 05, 2021
Helima Croft, Managing Director and Global Head of Commodity Strategy at RBC Capital Markets, joins Ronan and JR to break down the geopolitical issues impacting oil markets today, from OPEC to the major areas of focus for the Biden administration to the dynamics of renewables (recorded March 18).
with Spencer Mindlin of Aite Group
March 22, 2021
Aite Group Senior Analyst, Capital Markets Spencer Mindlin joins Ronan and JR to dig into the market structure topics shaping up to take the spotlight in 2021 from short selling to settlement cycles to the shrinking universe of private companies.
with Tori Dewey and Sean Spector of IEX Exchange
March 08, 2021
IEX's very own Sean Spector and Tori Dewey join Ronan and JR to debunk the conventional wisdom of minimum quantity with cold, hard data. Tune in to see Ronan and JR field a pop quiz on odd lots and stay for the breakdown of the impact of minimum quantity on adverse selection, information leakage, and opportunity cost. Want more on min quant? Check on Tori and Sean's full blog series here: https://medium.com/boxes-and-lines/do-minimum-quantities-maximize-performance-b376025a73cd
with Frank Chaparro of The Block
February 17, 2021
Frank Chaparro, Director of News at The Block, stops by to school Ronan and JR on the latest topics in crypto and digital assets, including the maturation of Bitcoin, institutional adoption of cryptocurrencies, the regulatory outlook, and comparisons to "traditional markets."
with Occupy A Job on Wall Street
February 01, 2021
The anonymous protagonist of the "Occupy a Job on Wall Street" stories and podcast joins Ronan and JR to discuss his career beginnings, how Wall Street has transformed over the years, and his predictions for the future of trading, automation, and more (recorded January 12).
with Henrietta Treyz of Veda Partners
January 19, 2021
Henrietta Treyz, Managing Partner & Director of Economic Policy at Veda Partners, joins Ronan and JR to discuss the outlook for macroeconomic policy, legislation, buybacks, tariffs, and more in the Biden administration. Primary recording December 22, addendum recorded January 11.
January 04, 2021
Before the SEC announced he was stepping down as the Trading and Markets Director by the end of 2020, Brett Redfearn sat down (virtually) with Credit Suisse Managing Director and Head of Americas Market Structure Doug Clark at STA National. Doug joins Ronan and JR to break down that interview and Brett's biggest accomplishments in the role (recorded October 14).
with Chris Ekimoff and Kurt Wolfe of the PLI inSecurities Podcast
December 21, 2020
inSecurities podcast co-hosts Chris Ekimoff, Financial Investigations & Disputes Southeast Region Leader at RSM US LLP, and Kurt Wolfe, Regulatory Investigations & Enforcement Attorney at Troutman Pepper, join Ronan and JR to discuss potential areas of focus for the SEC in the Biden administration, including enforcement, buybacks, ESG – and of course, who might be sitting in the big chair at the SEC (recorded November 30). Additionally, for more information or to donate to the nonprofits mentioned on the episode, please visit the Network for Victim Recovery of DC (nvrdc.org) and La Cocina VA (lacocinava.org).
December 21, 2020
Check out our rebroadcast of this episode of PLI's inSecurities podcast, in which hosts Chris Ekimoff and Kurt Wolfe chatted with our own JR and Dan Eisemann of MFS about innovation in equity market structure and the nuances of algorithmic and high-frequency trading.
with Arbitrage Andy
December 14, 2020
Arbitrage Andy continues the finmeme education of Ronan and JR, covering deal sleds, the fascination with notorious figures in finance, and the inspiration behind his pseudonym.
with Mazy Dar of OpenFin and Tim Baker of IEX Cloud
December 07, 2020
Mazy Dar, Co-Founder and CEO of OpenFin, joins Ronan, JR, and Tim Baker of IEX Cloud to discuss modernizing the desktop experience in finance, the new IEX Cloud Gateway app, and what it means to democratize app distribution.
with Dave Dalzell and Lance Meyerowich of Dalzell Trading, Brian Moran of FLX Distribution
November 23, 2020
David Dalzell, CEO and Founder of Dalzell Trading, Lance Meyerowich, Chief Revenue Officer of Dalzell Trading, and Brian Moran, CEO and Founder of FLX Distribution, join Ronan and JR to talk about the reasons buyside firms consider outsourcing aspects of their trading and distribution functions, how COVID is forcing everyone to try an "outsourced" model, and the keys to successful partnership.
with Mike Green of Logica Capital
November 12, 2020
On the afternoon of Election Day, November 3, Mike Green, Portfolio Manager and Chief Strategist at Logica Capital joined us for a live discussion about the growth of passive investing and what it means for the heterogeneity of the market and volatility.
with Heidi Fischer of Instinet and Jenny Hadiaris of Cowen and Company
November 10, 2020
Heidi Fischer, Co-Head of Execution Services at Instinet, and Jenny Hadiaris, Global Head of Market Structure and Head of U.S. Electronic Trading Coverage at Cowen and Company, join Ronan and JR to discuss the topics that keep coming back, from inaccessible liquidity to the order protection rule, as well as the fierce, supportive community of women on Wall Street (recorded October 15).
with Adam Inzirillo of Cboe
October 26, 2020
Adam Inzirillo, Head of North American Equities at Cboe, joins Ronan and JR to talk about the state of displayed liquidity, the challenges and benefits of remote work, and why being innovative as an exchange matters (recorded October 6).
with Jared Dillian of the Daily Dirtnap
October 12, 2020
Jared Dillian, Editor of The Daily Dirtnap, joins Ronan and JR to talk about his days on Wall Street, fractional shares, liquidity trends, and his syndicated radio show.
with James Elkins of Golob Partners
September 28, 2020
James Elkins, Founding Partner of Golob Partners and Adjunct Professor at Arizona State University's W.P. Carey School of Business, joins Ronan and JR to discuss the evolution of the VWAP (Volume Weighted Average Price) benchmark and his experience over a 50+ year career in institutional trading and measurement.
with Achim Steiner of the UNDP
September 14, 2020
Achim Steiner, the Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), joins Ronan and JR for an in-depth conversation about development economics, the meaning of true global sustainability, and how IEX got involved in a task force on digital financing of the UN Sustainable Development Goals.
with Scott Bauguess of the University of Texas
August 31, 2020
Scott Bauguess, Director of the Salem Center Program on Financial Market Regulation at the University of Texas, joins Ronan and JR to talk market regulation, his time at the SEC's Division of Economic and Risk Analysis (DERA), and the possible long-term effects of COVID-19 on financial markets.
with Bryan Christian of Old Mission Capital
August 17, 2020
Bryan Christian, Managing Director, Head of Institutional Services at Old Mission Capital, joins Ronan and JR for a conversation about the evolving role of a market maker, the 30th anniversary of ETFs, and the importance of adaptability in volatile markets.
with Tim Quast of Modern IR
August 03, 2020
Tim Quast, founder and CEO of Modern IR, joins Ronan and JR for a discussion on what investor relations pros should know about market structure and stock exchanges, and the importance of market intelligence in the world of IR.
with Benjamin Connault, Economist at IEX
July 20, 2020
Benjamin Connault, Economist at IEX, joins Ronan and JR for an in-depth discussion of market data history and the commercial, regulatory and legal developments around U.S. equities market data products and their prices over the past 20 years.
with David Cannizzo of Raymond James and Vlad Khandros of UBS
July 13, 2020
David Cannizzo, Managing Director, Head of Electronic Trading and Market Structure at Raymond James, and Vlad Khandros, Global Head of Market Structure & Liquidity Strategy and Global Co-Head of Principal Investments & Strategic Ventures at UBS, join Ronan and JR to talk about trading during periods of volatility, market data reform, and opening and closing auctions with a closed NYSE floor.
with Boris Ilyevsky of IEX
June 29, 2020
Boris Ilyevsky, who leads market development at IEX, joins Ronan and JR to chat about the inner workings of the options market, the complexity of exchange pricing models, and floor-based trading in the options space.
with Erika Karp, CEO of Cornerstone Capital Group
June 08, 2020
Erika Karp, Founder and CEO of Cornerstone Capital Group, chats with Ronan and JR about sustainable investing, embracing the UN's Sustainable Development Goals, and ESG analysis as an investment discipline (recorded May 18).
with Anna Kurzrok of BNP Paribas
May 26, 2020
Anna Kurzrok, Director and Head of U.S. Market Structure at BNP Paribas CIB, joins Ronan and JR to expand on her signature market structure research notes in a discussion around buybacks, odd lots, and the implications of the SEC's market data proposals (recorded before release of May 6 SEC orders).
with Hitesh Mittal of BestEx Research
May 18, 2020
Hitesh Mittal, Founder & CEO of BestEx Research, shares his team's findings on the state of liquidity in U.S. equities through the ongoing Covid-19 crisis, plus his thoughts on the SEC's recent order to revamp SIP (Securities Information Processors) governance. Ronan and JR are also joined this week by guest host, our own Chief Strategy Officer Eric Stockland.
with Meredith Cross of WilmerHale
May 11, 2020
Meredith Cross joins Ronan and JR to talk about corporate disclosures during the pandemic, how today's crises compare to the financial crisis, and how JR lightened the mood at senior staff meetings at the SEC. Former Director of the SEC's Division of Corporation Finance, Meredith Cross is currently a Partner at WilmerHale - where she advises companies on disclosure, corporate finance securities law, and corporate governance.
with Elisse Walter, 30th Chair of the SEC
April 27, 2020
The Honorable Elisse Walter, 30th Chair of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, knows crisis management. This week, she joins Ronan and JR to share what she's learned from a career in financial regulation - including through times of turmoil in 1987 and post-911, to the 2008 financial crash.
April 20, 2020
Litquidity dives deep into finmeme culture with Ronan and JR, talking about the reason for his anonymity, what it's really like to be on the sellside, and a deep etymology of "whomst."
with Melissa Hinmon of Glenmede
April 13, 2020
Melissa Hinmon, Director of Equity Trading at Glenmede Investment Management, chats with Ronan and JR about outsourced trading, adding irreplaceable value at work, and why she decided to take the "not-so-friendly route."
with Sal Arnuk and Joseph Saluzzi of Themis Trading
April 07, 2020
Sal and Joe of Themis Trading share with Ronan and JR why they speak their minds in public, the biggest problems in market structure, and their deep fear of windbreakers.
with Ronan and JR
March 20, 2020
Ronan and JR answer your questions about how the stock market operates in times of crisis, market-wide circuit breakers, and why it doesn't make sense to shut down the market or ban short sales.
with Bryan Harkins from Cboe Global Markets
March 10, 2020
Competitors can get along, especially over a beer. Bryan Harkins, Cboe's Head of Markets, joins Ronan and JR to chat about the Cboe Market Close, Wall Street Rides FAR, and what increased exchange competition will mean for market structure in 2020.
with CEOs Tim Mahoney and Jonathan Clark of BIDS and Luminex
February 18, 2020
Tim and Jonathan walk through the action-packed 20+ years that led to the creation of BIDS and Luminex – two alternative trading systems that specialize in large block trading.
with Mett Kinak from T. Rowe Price
January 27, 2020
Ronan and JR chat with Mett Kinak about how (and why) the buyside model is changing, the great rebate debate, and why some people might really benefit from a shorter trading day.
with Danny Moses, Porter Collins, and Vinny Daniel
January 07, 2020
Ronan talks with Danny, Porter, and Vinny about what it's like being a character in a Michael Lewis book, why traders have to become detectives, and what the market should be paying attention to nearly a decade after The Big Short.
with Richard Johnson of Greenwich Associates
December 2nd, 2019
Best ex is in the eye of the beholder...or is it? We're breaking down Greenwich Associates' new study on how the buyside thinks about best execution, joined by Richard Johnson and our own Chief Strategy Officer Eric Stockland.
with Doug Cifu, CEO of Virtu Financial
November 11, 2019
Doug Cifu chats with Ronan and JR about 606 reporting, the future of analytics at Virtu, and how his past as a fashion lawyer(!) informs his work.
September 26, 2019
It's one of the hottest debates in market structure today: exchange market data. From how much it costs ($$$) to who has to buy it (in practice), we're digging deep on how we got here, what's changed, and the way forward.
September 26th, 2019
In the beginning, IEX added a speed bump to its Alternative Trading System (ATS) with the goal of protecting investors. Today, it feels like every exchange has one. What gives?